He Survived a Shotgun Ambush Then the System Failed Him - Part 2
"Three years. That's all it took for my shooter to get away with it."
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**EDITOR'S NOTE:** This is Part 2 of Tom Weitzel's story, originally released on YouTube in December 2025. We're now making it available on all audio platforms.
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In Part 1, Tom Weitzel told us how he survived a gang ambush during a traffic stop in 1987. Part 2 is about what happened when the justice system failed him.
When ATF agents finally identified Tom's shooter years later, Illinois law said it was too late to prosecute. The statute of limitations for attempted murder of a police officer? Three years. For writing a bad check? Forever.
Tom went to Springfield and got that law changed. But he didn't stop there.
Now, as three of his own sons serve in law enforcement, Tom is fighting for something bigger: making line-of-duty deaths federal crimes—with federal investigation, federal prosecution, and the death penalty in all 50 states.
In this episode:
- Why the current system fails officer families
- What's happening at the ICE facility near Chicago
- Tom's federal crime proposal that the Biden administration ignored
- His collaboration with Citizens Behind the Badge to take it to Congress
If Part 1 was about survival, Part 2 is about making sure other officers don't face the same injustice.
Haven't listened to Part 1 yet? Find it in your podcast feed from December 16, 2025.
Transcript
Welcome back to Heroes Behind the Badge.
Paul Boomer:In the last episode, you heard Tom Weitzel's Story of Survival, how Gang
Paul Boomer:members Shotgun Blast nearly ended his career and his life during a
Paul Boomer:routine parking violation stop in 1987.
Paul Boomer:Tom's Bulletproof vest saved him that night.
Paul Boomer:He returned to duty, rose through the ranks and became chief of police.
Paul Boomer:But the gang member who shot him, he walked free.
Paul Boomer:The statute of limitations expired before he could be charged.
Paul Boomer:In this episode, were talking about Tom's fight to change the system
Paul Boomer:that failed him, his advocacy for federal prosecution of line of duty,
Paul Boomer:death cases, and why he believes.
Paul Boomer:Every officer in America deserves justice.
Paul Boomer:This is heroes behind the badge.
Paul Boomer:Part two, Fighting for Justice.
Bill Erfurth:you were leading by example and I'm sure ultimately
Bill Erfurth:the morale there was quite good.
Bill Erfurth:you're telling a story about you.
Bill Erfurth:How they came to you and said, put your paperwork in if you
Bill Erfurth:want to become the chief.
Bill Erfurth:We have a, person on our advisory council.
Bill Erfurth:He was a deputy chief on a department, and, they decided
Bill Erfurth:that they were gonna do a search.
Bill Erfurth:Outside, like a lot of places do.
Bill Erfurth:And he basically said, I've nearly died blood, sweat, and tears for
Bill Erfurth:this agency for countless years.
Bill Erfurth:I've got every - you know, every accomplishment, every award.
Bill Erfurth:And if I'm not good enough and you gotta find somebody
Bill Erfurth:else, then find somebody else.
Bill Erfurth:And you know what?
Bill Erfurth:He just retired.
Bill Erfurth:Boom.
Bill Erfurth:It was insulting.
Bill Erfurth:It was insulting for him.
Bill Erfurth:It was probably insulting for you,
Tom Weitzel:and I was in the position of acting chief, so I would
Tom Weitzel:probably would've gone back to deputy chief or operations lieutenant.
Tom Weitzel:And, but I, was serious.
Tom Weitzel:I'm like, I'm not, you're not offending me if you don't, if you don't know my
Tom Weitzel:skills and know what, and here if you don't want me as your chief, that's okay.
Tom Weitzel:I, it wasn't, I wasn't gonna go behind a rock and cry, and literally the next day
Tom Weitzel:they came and said, yeah, you are the guy we want, let's negotiate an employment
Tom Weitzel:contract so you could stay here.
Tom Weitzel:And they kept me there for 13 years till I retired.
Craig Floyd:I love it.
Craig Floyd:So Tom.
Bill Erfurth:Go ahead, Craig.
Craig Floyd:I was just gonna say, I, we started this organization,
Craig Floyd:citizens Behind the Badge, in part because of, wholly because of the
Craig Floyd:defund and defame, the police movement.
Craig Floyd:But one of the problems that we were trying to solve and continue to work
Craig Floyd:on is the recruitment and retention problem within law enforcement that
Craig Floyd:was created by the Defund movement.
Craig Floyd:Your story, I think, is inspiring in many ways because not only did
Craig Floyd:you go back on the job after nearly dying, for your community, but three
Craig Floyd:of your sons are now police officers.
Craig Floyd:and, so many officers I've talked to, recently during the defund
Craig Floyd:movement especially have said.
Craig Floyd:They would not encourage their children to become law enforcement
Craig Floyd:officers because of the climate today.
Craig Floyd:the, degradation of law enforcement, the, potential, civil and, criminal, penalties
Craig Floyd:they may face for simply doing their job.
Craig Floyd:But with all of that as background, and you live through the defund movement,
Craig Floyd:your three sons are now police officers.
Craig Floyd:so number one, how did your wife feel about that?
Craig Floyd:And number two, why would you encourage your sons to become a
Craig Floyd:law enforcement officer today?
Tom Weitzel:My wife, I'll start with that.
Tom Weitzel:she wishes they could have gone.
Tom Weitzel:My wife's an accountant, she would always say, couldn't
Tom Weitzel:one of them be an accountant?
Tom Weitzel:There you go.
Tom Weitzel:and I had two that always wanted to be policemen.
Tom Weitzel:They wanted to follow in my footsteps.
Tom Weitzel:They really did.
Tom Weitzel:They currently, all suburban Chicago police officers here, they've all
Tom Weitzel:been on 10 years or more, and.
Tom Weitzel:I encourage them.
Tom Weitzel:That's true.
Tom Weitzel:'cause when they were little kids, I brought 'em to every
Tom Weitzel:police event our department had.
Tom Weitzel:if we had a, what we would call a Turkey shoot or we had a
Tom Weitzel:Christmas with Santa, the police, I always had my kids come with me.
Tom Weitzel:So they were, she used to that culture and they were used to police officers.
Tom Weitzel:My third son wanted to be a teacher.
Tom Weitzel:He just randomly tested with a suburban police department and got
Tom Weitzel:an offer, and then he took that job and now he's a sergeant on
Tom Weitzel:that department and he loves it.
Tom Weitzel:But I, my wife would, to this day, she would like them to do
Tom Weitzel:something else because it's hard.
Tom Weitzel:It was hard to go through that to fund the police movement because.
Tom Weitzel:My son went, their departments went from being revered to people
Tom Weitzel:would put signs out on their lawn.
Tom Weitzel:They, used to put signs, we support the police.
Tom Weitzel:And then the yard signs were defund the police and defame the police.
Tom Weitzel:And they would put all kinds of anti-police rhetoric and they
Tom Weitzel:weren't used to seeing that.
Tom Weitzel:And it really affected them.
Tom Weitzel:And as how difficult recruiting and retention is, they were.
Tom Weitzel:Individuals were coming into profession that never wanted to be
Tom Weitzel:police officers or they were getting what I consider lower caliber.
Tom Weitzel:'cause what happened here in Illinois is they lowered the police entry standards
Tom Weitzel:because they were having so difficult time recruiting officers after the defund,
Tom Weitzel:the police movement and the George Floyd murder in Minneapolis, they, what, when I
Tom Weitzel:left Riverside, the last exam that we gave for police officer, 10 people showed up.
Tom Weitzel:10 years before that, we had 350 for the written exam.
Tom Weitzel:So it had plummeted.
Tom Weitzel:But I always told my kids, this is the best profession.
Tom Weitzel:It's the most honorable profession.
Tom Weitzel:You will enjoy it, you will love it.
Tom Weitzel:There will be times you hate.
Tom Weitzel:There will be times that are really good, but it is a honest
Tom Weitzel:profession and honorable.
Tom Weitzel:And you know what?
Tom Weitzel:They bought into that and they still buy into it.
Tom Weitzel:And I'm asked today, I asked the other day, somebody said
Tom Weitzel:to me, Tom, would you still.
Tom Weitzel:Today, recommend that all of your sons go into policing, and I said I would.
Tom Weitzel:I'm not one.
Tom Weitzel:I am absolutely 100% behind this profession and I would support my
Tom Weitzel:sons going into this profession now.
Tom Weitzel:And I also encourage other people that are still looking for a really
Tom Weitzel:honorable profession to still come in.
Tom Weitzel:'cause we need new blood.
Tom Weitzel:when I left this chief, we need new officers coming in to the profession
Tom Weitzel:that have the skills we need.
Bill Erfurth:Tom, give us a little inside story in the Wezel house when
Bill Erfurth:your first son decided he was gonna become a cop, and, what the dynamics
Bill Erfurth:were in that household and how did he get the other two brothers to follow,
Bill Erfurth:or what was the reaction overall?
Tom Weitzel:So my first son took the first job.
Tom Weitzel:He could, you get out of college, you're, testing.
Tom Weitzel:He was working, but he was testing.
Tom Weitzel:So he took a town in the south suburbs, hired him, called University Park.
Tom Weitzel:He stayed there about six months because, he wanted to move on
Tom Weitzel:to a department that was larger.
Tom Weitzel:and had more, opportunities for advancement and he ended up going
Tom Weitzel:through two departments, a department in Illinois called, suburban La Grange
Tom Weitzel:Park, and then he ended up in North Riverside, which was next to where I work.
Tom Weitzel:Different community though, and.
Tom Weitzel:He loved it and he would come home and just tell my other sons about
Tom Weitzel:how fantastic it was and how, he, they were making arrests every night.
Tom Weitzel:'cause that's, what he thought his job was.
Tom Weitzel:and they were, the community supported law enforcement.
Tom Weitzel:he had a really good department.
Tom Weitzel:The structure was good.
Tom Weitzel:They had a lot of opportunities.
Tom Weitzel:So he never said a bad word about it.
Tom Weitzel:And that really.
Tom Weitzel:My other, my two other sons, my middle son, youngest son, they, would listen
Tom Weitzel:to that because at then they were living at home and they would listen to that.
Tom Weitzel:And, I think it, I think my oldest son Alex, played a huge
Tom Weitzel:influence on my other two sons.
Bill Erfurth:Excellent, excellent.
Bill Erfurth:And then now, today, as things have evolved, and like you're saying,
Bill Erfurth:there used to be the 'supports your police' signs and the lawn, and now
Bill Erfurth:they're, Protesting against the police.
Bill Erfurth:It's the defund, defame the police.
Bill Erfurth:And I think you've got a story to tell us that your kids now are actually involved
Bill Erfurth:in What we've seen, so oftentimes on the news now is there's a, an ice facility
Bill Erfurth:outside of Chicago there and they have had protests going on a daily basis.
Bill Erfurth:And it's been something that your three kids now have to deal with.
Tom Weitzel:Yeah.
Tom Weitzel:So that is, the ICE facility in Broadview, Illinois.
Tom Weitzel:Just minutes from where two of my sons work and the smaller agencies
Tom Weitzel:have these mutual aid packs.
Tom Weitzel:And what happens is when they have these big protests, they're,
Tom Weitzel:they don't have enough officers to handle it, even with ICE themselves.
Tom Weitzel:And it sometimes they had, border patrols still there.
Tom Weitzel:They would have to call on the Cook County Sheriff's, police, state police and local
Tom Weitzel:police to assist them in skirmish lines.
Tom Weitzel:And, controlling, Protests.
Tom Weitzel:So my, I have sons that have been there on a regular basis
Tom Weitzel:and it is brutal Over there.
Tom Weitzel:The officers are being targeted, they're being, injured on a regular basis.
Tom Weitzel:They're having bottles and bricks chucked at them.
Tom Weitzel:They're having.
Tom Weitzel:dog feces wrapped up in plastic bags thrown at the officers.
Tom Weitzel:They're having bottles for urine thrown, and it's all staged.
Tom Weitzel:My sons will tell me that every time they do this, they wait until
Tom Weitzel:the media gets there and then the confrontation takes place.
Tom Weitzel:The confrontation, if the media is not there covering it.
Tom Weitzel:All it is yelling and screaming.
Tom Weitzel:Once the news stations and the print media shows up, then the surge is
Tom Weitzel:on to get in the facility where the confrontation takes place.
Tom Weitzel:So it's very staged for media attention.
Bill Erfurth:So staged, so disingenuous.
Bill Erfurth:the other thing too is, we're treating all these people with such kid gloves.
Bill Erfurth:this is a funny story.
Bill Erfurth:I was in the gym the other day and it was, we were literally talking
Bill Erfurth:about this, ice facility outside of Chicago there in Illinois, and one
Bill Erfurth:of the guys in the gym said to me.
Bill Erfurth:Why aren't you?
Bill Erfurth:Why aren't the cops just blasting the balls off of them with the water cannons?
Bill Erfurth:Why don't they use the water cannons anymore?
Bill Erfurth:And I said, man, I would love to see that.
Bill Erfurth:I would love to see the water cannons, it's the kid gloves.
Bill Erfurth:Oh, we gotta treat 'em so well, blah, blah, blah.
Bill Erfurth:These little babies, the thing of it is, if they'd have blast their
Bill Erfurth:ass with the water cannons one day.
Bill Erfurth:That would be the only day we'd ever hear about that.
Bill Erfurth:because it would be over.
Tom Weitzel:Yeah.
Tom Weitzel:they're allowed, just recently allowed to use less than lethal weapons.
Tom Weitzel:And here's the thing with that, like that's what they're designed for.
Tom Weitzel:They're less than lethal.
Tom Weitzel:In fact, many of these activists that are at this Broadview facility,
Tom Weitzel:they've been preaching that for years, that police should use
Tom Weitzel:other tools than their firearms.
Tom Weitzel:now they've been able to use a pepper ball.
Tom Weitzel:Guns, stun guns, sometimes some type of mac or a chemical agent and
Tom Weitzel:the newspapers here in the Chicago metropolitan area are blasting the police
Tom Weitzel:for using the less than lethal options.
Tom Weitzel:And I was, I commented the other day, somebody interviewed me.
Tom Weitzel:I said that, I said, these are the weapons that you designed for
Tom Weitzel:police to use less than lethal.
Tom Weitzel:It's what they're meant for.
Tom Weitzel:It's what you've been advocating for.
Tom Weitzel:Now they're being used and now you're slamming the police saying
Tom Weitzel:they should not be using them.
Tom Weitzel:Like what, do you think that the police officer's job is to sit there
Tom Weitzel:and get the crap beat out of 'em?
Tom Weitzel:'cause it isn't, that's not in their job title.
Tom Weitzel:They're allowed to defend themselves.
Tom Weitzel:They, it's, it, you don't have to be attacked to defend yourself.
Tom Weitzel:my situation, you don't have to be shot to shoot back.
Tom Weitzel:there's this notion out there that you have to be stabbed or shot, or you have to
Tom Weitzel:be attacked first before you can respond.
Tom Weitzel:And that is not the legal standard in Illinois.
Bill Erfurth:Good for you, Tom.
Bill Erfurth:Good for you for saying that.
Bill Erfurth:For standing up and voicing that loud and clear.
Bill Erfurth:I, would just like to see, like in the mornings when all those idiots
Bill Erfurth:show up, just, greet 'em with a wave of tear gas every day and just
Bill Erfurth:say, good morning motherfuckers,
Craig Floyd:What they're doing.
Craig Floyd:This attitude that cops, can't use force of any kind, is resulting
Craig Floyd:in, serious threats to the lives of police officers who are now
Craig Floyd:hesitant to use force when necessary.
Craig Floyd:Even less than lethal force, let alone lethal force.
Craig Floyd:But sometimes if you don't react, within seconds, your life.
Craig Floyd:Could be taken by these criminal, animals out there that are, it
Craig Floyd:could care less about a cop's life.
Craig Floyd:They don't even care about their own lives.
Craig Floyd:Tom, I know we're getting near the inter, this interview, but a couple quick points.
Craig Floyd:One, thank you.
Craig Floyd:I understand you're an ambassador now for the National Law Enforcement
Craig Floyd:Officer's Memorial Fund and I started that program way back when, when.
Craig Floyd:I was still with the Memorial Fund and I'm so thankful for people like yourself,
Craig Floyd:seasoned veterans of law enforcement, people that have great integrity, great
Craig Floyd:reputations now, talking about the importance of the memorial, the importance
Craig Floyd:of the National Law Enforcement Museum, the importance of Destination Zero,
Craig Floyd:our safety program, trying to promote the safety and wellness for officers.
Craig Floyd:So thank you, sir for that.
Craig Floyd:I wanted to have that opportunity to thank you myself.
Craig Floyd:But last question I had for you is, I understand you have a bit of a
Craig Floyd:personal crusade going on right now where you're trying to get the federal,
Craig Floyd:prosecutors to take over line of duty death cases when it comes to law
Craig Floyd:enforcement, as opposed to leaving it up to the state and local jurisdictions.
Craig Floyd:I, I'd just like you to talk about that.
Craig Floyd:What's your thinking behind that type of change in the way we
Craig Floyd:deal with line of duty deaths?
Tom Weitzel:It's my, first of all, it's my honor to serve as
Tom Weitzel:an ambassador for the memorial.
Tom Weitzel:No question about that.
Tom Weitzel:And the individuals I work most with, I love and, my direct supervisor,
Tom Weitzel:Matt Garcia, is superior individual that I work with at the, the memorial.
Tom Weitzel:So what I've been trying to do for 15 years is I saw over the years
Tom Weitzel:that all police investigations, when there's a police.
Tom Weitzel:Line of duty death aren't handled the same way.
Tom Weitzel:And in fact, in many rural areas and small communities who don't have the resources
Tom Weitzel:and don't request a lot of assistance from either their state police or federal
Tom Weitzel:partners, those investigations are not conducted and evidence is not collected
Tom Weitzel:universally throughout the United States.
Tom Weitzel:And I believe that, some of those cases, are, there's missteps.
Tom Weitzel:There's, Evidence missed, there's leads missed.
Tom Weitzel:There's, a, local politicians who serve as state's attorneys who don't really
Tom Weitzel:push, for prosecution in the right manner.
Tom Weitzel:I'm a huge believer in that we need to have uniformity in that.
Tom Weitzel:So I was pushing this federal legislation that would make the murder of a
Tom Weitzel:police officer in the line of duty.
Tom Weitzel:A federal crime and investigated by federal agencies similar to
Tom Weitzel:what I theorized was the FAA has this thing called a GO team.
Tom Weitzel:So when an airplane crash happens, the FAA immediately.
Tom Weitzel:Dispatch is this go team that comes with experts in everything, Boeing engines,
Tom Weitzel:gas, the, manufacture, everything.
Tom Weitzel:So I, I envisioned a GO team when a police officer's killed in the line of duty that
Tom Weitzel:this go team would come with the federal prosecutor, FBI, secret service, a TF.
Tom Weitzel:Evidence collection people from FBI and they would work
Tom Weitzel:with the local law enforcement.
Tom Weitzel:we wouldn't X them out of it, but we would work together and then the
Tom Weitzel:prosecution would be at the federal level.
Tom Weitzel:So there's no politics involved you that survivors families and I really
Tom Weitzel:have become a advocate working with the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial
Tom Weitzel:Fund, ambassador for family - victims families need to be heard, and you need
Tom Weitzel:to trust the investigation of your loved one that was murdered in the line of duty.
Tom Weitzel:You need to trust that investigation.
Tom Weitzel:You need to trust the department knows what they're doing and that the
Tom Weitzel:prosecution knows what they're doing and you go for the full extent of the law.
Tom Weitzel:I'm not a person that believes there should be any.
Tom Weitzel:Parole or early release for any police officer, the offender
Tom Weitzel:that shoots and kills a police officer or stabs them or whatever.
Tom Weitzel:You should serve 100% of your time, if not get the death penalty.
Tom Weitzel:I have been criticized for some of that, but that's my belief.
Tom Weitzel:I think that needs to be uniformed as far as.
Tom Weitzel:A federal statute, so that I've been fighting for that for 15 years.
Tom Weitzel:the only administration to acknowledge me is the Trump administration.
Tom Weitzel:I reached out to, the Biden administration twice.
Tom Weitzel:I've reached out to the, federal prosecutor's office.
Tom Weitzel:they have never gotten back to me in previous administration, my own
Tom Weitzel:state, federal, Tammy Duckworth, for example, or, Mr. Durbin, I have
Tom Weitzel:emailed them, called their office, wrote them letters that I keep.
Tom Weitzel:This all, never ever a response from them, even an acknowledgement that,
Tom Weitzel:Hey, maybe I could work with you and look into if this doesn't work, we
Tom Weitzel:could come up with a modification.
Tom Weitzel:Never had a response.
Bill Erfurth:Tom, you're a hundred percent right on
Bill Erfurth:that a hundred percent right?
Bill Erfurth:And quite frankly, if it were to go federal, you could then move forward with
Bill Erfurth:the death penalty in all 50 states, right?
Bill Erfurth:Because you don't have the death penalty otherwise.
Bill Erfurth:And, you know your point and what you're talking about, you
Bill Erfurth:and Craig should get together.
Bill Erfurth:Tom, you should put this op-ed together.
Bill Erfurth:Craig can help you get that published and we can help you, even
Bill Erfurth:bring that in front of Congress.
Bill Erfurth:So I, think that's something we should follow up on.
Bill Erfurth:Sure.
Craig Floyd:I love that idea.
Craig Floyd:And, we are advocating for a piece of legislation that's been in Congress the
Craig Floyd:last, couple of congresses at least.
Craig Floyd:it's called the Thin Blue Line Act.
Craig Floyd:And basically this would allow for.
Craig Floyd:More circumstances where the death penalty for killing a law
Craig Floyd:enforcement officer would be in play.
Craig Floyd:And to Bill's point, there are many states, most states in this nation,
Craig Floyd:who have eliminated the death penalty and have never imposed the death
Craig Floyd:penalty in decades and never will.
Craig Floyd:but if, in fact, this was made a federal crime.
Craig Floyd:To Bill's point, it would be eligible for the death penalty.
Craig Floyd:Tom, let's plan on working together, seeing what we can do.
Craig Floyd:I love the idea of an op-ed that would make the case and
Craig Floyd:explain why this would be a good, change, something that is needed.
Craig Floyd:Why, and, we can certainly help, amplify that message.
Craig Floyd:thank you sir. once again, I think we, nailed it.
Craig Floyd:Dennis and Bill, we call our show Heroes Behind the Badge.
Craig Floyd:I think we've got heroes in our midst.
Craig Floyd:Tom.
Dennis Collins:He's not a hero, but I would disagree with him.
Bill Erfurth:Tom, you got me fired up today.
Bill Erfurth:You got me on a roll a couple of times.
Dennis Collins:Yeah.
Dennis Collins:You, really, I don't know of anybody that we've had as a guest that embodies what
Dennis Collins:Citizens Behind the Badge is all about.
Dennis Collins:Tom is like perfect.
Dennis Collins:what courage?
Dennis Collins:you take a stand and you stand up for what's right.
Dennis Collins:we appreciate you telling your story.
Dennis Collins:your story's not just about.
Dennis Collins:That night that changed your life.
Dennis Collins:It's about what you chose and it was your choice, what to do afterwards, how
Dennis Collins:you fought for others, and how you've continued to serve long after you
Dennis Collins:retired the badge because of your fight.
Dennis Collins:Officers across Illinois are safer because of your persistence.
Dennis Collins:The law is stronger because of your voice.
Dennis Collins:Which we heard today loud and clear because of your voice,
Dennis Collins:family spacing, that worst day of their lives are not alone.
Dennis Collins:So Tom, Weitzell, thank you for telling your story.
Dennis Collins:Thank you for representing for police.
Dennis Collins:Thank you for showing all of us what commitment looks like
Dennis Collins:long after the sirens fade.
Dennis Collins:We appreciate it.
Tom Weitzel:Thank you.
Tom Weitzel:I'm honored.
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